Apostasy defined in the dictionary is one who turns against his religion and criticizes his former religion. Tell them that all who came into the organization and turned against their former religion (Catholic, Protestant...) are considered in the strictest definition of the word to be apostate. Then talk about how apostasy is only what it is defined as-changing religious beliefs. Technically, Jesus could be considered an apostate because he did not follow the religion of his day. His teachings were drastically different than what was the "norm". End by saying that apostasy is just a word, not a death sentence. Have fun!
Cold Creek Swimmer
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Help! they're giving me a talk #4 entittled:" IDENTIFYING APOSTATES"
by dark angle inthis is quite awkward for me to give!
our elder gave me that assignment last week and should be delivered next week on the theocratic ministry school.
considering i have very unconventional views for the wts about blood, evolution, bible, and the gb, delivering this talk seemd quite maladroit.
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Honestly, do JW's practice this?
by JH in1 thes 5.
14on the other hand, we exhort you, brothers, admonish the disorderly, speak consolingly to the depressed souls, support the weak, be long-suffering toward all.15see that no one renders injury for injury to anyone else, but always pursue what is good toward one another and to all others.. .
if a jw is weak and misses meetings and becomes inactive, do the jw's really support the weak and are they long suffering towards them, or do they start shunning them once they start missing meetings regularly?.
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I still have close friends who are witnesses. Even though I live 400 miles from them, when my family and I go visit they still are concerned me not going anymore. When we still lived there, they were always encouraging and non-judgemental. These particular friends were definitely the exception, not the rule. They will do almonst anything to help those in need and are the 1st ones to offer this help and support. They are true Christians regardless of religious affiliation. That cannot be said of most witnesses. These sisters love and concern for others goes far beyond any organizational doctrines. What makes this in teresting is that they are so active as witnesses. They are an example for ALL, both in and out of the Borg.
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oil change
by darth frosty inoil change instructions for women:.
1) pull up to jiffy lube when the mileage reaches 3000 miles since the last oil change.. 2) drink a cup of coffee.
3) 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained vehicle.
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Well done. I have tears running down my face and can barely type I am still laughing so hard.
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We couldn't stop laughing! LOL
by Rayvin inmy mom-in-law sent this to her whole list including me and her df'd son.
its titled .
a wonderful illustration!.
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I find it interesting that the 4th item on the list was to pray tp god. Shouldn't that have been #1?
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I still can't believe the compartamentalism of the average JW on blood !
by 5go ini mean the po said this and that substance is made from blood and is ok for jw to take.
but still you can't have blood or primaries.
no one in the audience batted an eye.
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Isn't that a bit like saying "I can't eat pork, but I cook with bacon grease"?
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THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF THE WTS.
by Mary ini wonder how many more years it'll be before we see two tablets out front of patterson or inscribed in the secret elder's manual:.
we are your lord and god.
you shall not have other gods before us, including jesus or jehovah.. you must not question anything we say or do.
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Cold Creek Swimmer
Thou Shalt not Think While Studying the Bible!
Any attempt to use common logic and basic thought processes will be considered grounds for reproof. Any further use of brain will be considered evidence of the Unforgivable Sin and will result in immediate dismissal!
Moral?-Use your brain and the Truth Will Set You Free!
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Is the word Jehovah really a name?
by zack ini ask this because jesus referred to god as: my lord, my father, my god.
he never used the word jehovah.
to me that if anyone would use the name, certainly jesus would.
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Cold Creek Swimmer
Here is a link to a site that speaks about this topic.
http://wernerbiblecommentary.org/?q=node/8
I don't kn ow how to make this a link, so just copy this into your browser. The 8th paragraph speaks directly tp this topic.
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We do not claim to be inspired prophets
by OnTheWayOut inpage 136 of the book, reasoning from the scriptures, says .
"jehovah's witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets.
2. false prophets.
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Thanks for the info. I'll look it up.
I gave up believing a long time ago. I just hang around for the sake of my wife and kids. I tried to go regularly and keep quiet, but then we moved to another state which made it incredibly easy to not go. I still go now and then if my wife does so I can help with the kids, but fortunately my wife seems always to have an excuse not to go. Unfortunately, she still believes that witnesses are the only way and that I'm an idiot who's creating a wall between us by not believing. She just doesn't realize that it's WTBS that has created the need for a wall. Once she gets that, there won't be a problem. I am quite comfortable with where I am and how I feel. Got a big kick out of "The END is near" again. My dad called to tell me about that, but I finally gave it up to him and said "What, again? How many times does that make? Don't call me and try to scare me back to THE TRUTH. " Needless to say, the conversation didn't go to well after that. I guess he didn't realize how I really feel.
I recently found out about some old friends that have come out. I gave them a call because I got tired of hearing all the second-hand gossip going around and thought that it would be better if I just called and talked to them. Much to my surprise and joy, they are out and quite active on this forum, which is why I am here now. That is pretty much the whole deal, and I thank you for your interest.
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We do not claim to be inspired prophets
by OnTheWayOut inpage 136 of the book, reasoning from the scriptures, says .
"jehovah's witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets.
2. false prophets.
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We do not claim to be inspired prophets
by OnTheWayOut inpage 136 of the book, reasoning from the scriptures, says .
"jehovah's witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets.
2. false prophets.
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Hello,
I am quite new to this forum. I have been lurking for a short time reading various posts to look for relevant info for my quest. I have been "fading" for about 6 years. My wife knows i don't believe, my family thinks I'm just stumbled or have minor issues. Anyway, this point in the Reasoning book is the 1st one to make me respond. That is great! do you have more items like that which i could use to get various people in my family thinking? Can you expound upon this with quotes that talk about WTBS being a prophet? I am looking for contradictions in teachings that most don't see because "the light" has not gotten bright enough.
The WTBS claims to be God's tool on earth, but how can they do this without being inspired? This is the best thing I've seen in this regard. Thank you for the info.